Has anyone tried the domainerincome.com beta?

[DomainMagnate]

Detecting fake PR is quite complex. For example, a PR check in your browser will give you different results depending on where you are on the planet (the G datacenter you query). Unfortunately its not as easy as just looking it up. Given the interest in this thread, we may do a video on PR and explain it in more detail.

fake pr is actually pretty simple to detect. If the pr is fake a info:domain.com search will show up a different domain.

[hooperman]

fake pr is actually pretty simple to detect. If the pr is fake a info:domain.com search will show up a different domain.

I know that you can often find faked PR by checking the cache of a page. If it shows a different page, it was faked with a redirect. The problem is that Google will eventually crawl that page again when the redirect has been removed. The cache will be updated with the true and the evidence is gone. Toolbar PR gets updated only every few months so the fake PR still remains, but no evidence of trickery is found.

Is that the case with info: too?

[benitez17]

I know that you can often find faked PR by checking the cache of a page. If it shows a different page, it was faked with a redirect. The problem is that Google will eventually crawl that page again when the redirect has been removed. The cache will be updated with the true and the evidence is gone. Toolbar PR gets updated only every few months so the fake PR still remains, but no evidence of trickery is found.

Is that the case with info: too?

I think if you check the individual datacenters instead of using the toolbar, you can avoid this situation. Otherwise, it would be a nice trick for the domain scammers.

[DomainMagnate]

I know that you can often find faked PR by checking the cache of a page. If it shows a different page, it was faked with a redirect. The problem is that Google will eventually crawl that page again when the redirect has been removed. The cache will be updated with the true and the evidence is gone. Toolbar PR gets updated only every few months so the fake PR still remains, but no evidence of trickery is found.

Is that the case with info: too?

I think the pr may get updated in that case too, since that's not a regular pr update which requires recalculating all the algo, but merely a "pr switch" from one url to another. But I've never seen this happen so not sure. Every time I saw a fake pr it was easily detectable with info:

[hooperman]

I think the pr may get updated in that case too, since that's not a regular pr update which requires recalculating all the algo, but merely a "pr switch" from one url to another.

Sorry DM, I mean does the info: data get updated next time Google crawls the page. If it's anything like cache: then the faked PR will remain on the toolbar, and all evidence of redirects will vanish.

[hooperman]

I think if you check the individual datacenters instead of using the toolbar, you can avoid this situation.

I thought that the DCs just reported the toolbar PR. Is that not the case?

[benitez17]

I thought that the DCs just reported the toolbar PR. Is that not the case?

I have seen cases where the toolbar PR doesn't match queries of the individual datacenters when looking at expired domains, but I am no expert in this area. If you are right, you have found an interesting loophole that can easily be turned into a scam.

[simon johnson]

I look forward to taking advantage of your free 7 day trial and seeing your new checker in production.

I just thought I'd follow up on this and let you know that the fake PR checker went into production 3 weeks ago. It works very well. Both Free and Paid members can see the results.

[benitez17]

I just thought I'd follow up on this and let you know that the fake PR checker went into production 3 weeks ago. It works very well. Both Free and Paid members can see the results.

Thanks for the update. Is there a good time to check for updates to your list? I just tried to register a few of the sites with PR on your list and several of them were taken.

Also, the domains that I checked that claimed to have PR didn't seem to have any according to either of the PR checkers I used.

[crabfoot]

Fake PR -

I keep getting link requests from one source. Being puzzled, I looked into the matter.

The company catches dropping domains with good Page Rank. When a domain is dropped by the owner, the PR is not immediately lost. The search engines do not check the drop lists, so they maintain the cached copies of the site in their servers for a few weeks.
If the domain is not active when the cached page copies expire, the PR is lost.

If, on the other hand, the new owner puts a site on the newly acquired domain, and rapidly builds a set of a couple of hundred new links, the site gets re-indexed without losing PR, and the new owner has a couple of months in which to sell it before the PR drops off because the site is not very informative.

I'm not revealing why I'm getting the requests, but they are all requests for links from a site that has not had a genuine visit in over three months - part of a future strategy.