Ryan is not an exclusive content provider for Flippa.com - I have asked him not to claim this in future.
Ryan is not an exclusive content provider for Flippa.com - I have asked him not to claim this in future.
Do you know where this claim came from? It's obvious that others provide content for Flippa.com, so I immediately knew that his statement was inaccurate, but I would hope there is some kernel of truth in his statement.Originally Posted by LukeMoulton
Luke, could you have a look at benitez17's question? Because at the blog post this Moran character is now claiming that he has spoken with you and he is an exclusive provider. In his words
Is he the only person you've agreed to link to on a regular basis? Not that I'm peeved you never took my offer up to write a post pointing out where you were misleading people in this post.I am the only person that they have agreed to link to on a regular basis that is not within the company.Just curious.
Last edited by 3Six; February 15th, 2010 at 05:11 PM.
Lol. Now he's claiming in the comments that he's the exclusive EXTERNAL (his emphasis) content provider.......he goes on to say "I am the only person that they have agreed to link to on a regular basis that is not within the company."
There was a misunderstanding between Ryan and Flippa that we've sorting out. It was never Ryan's intention to mislead anyone with his statement. Dave and I have both been very impressed with much of eTycoon's content and will continue to endorse Ryan as a training provider.
He has wasted no time in sticking the Flippa logo in his header and talking about "As seen on Flippa.com"Lol. Now he's claiming in the comments that he's the exclusive EXTERNAL (his emphasis) content provider
Damn, Luke, you've only just got into bed with a hype master and you already find his hyping of the relationship a bit uncomfortable?Ryan is not an exclusive content provider for Flippa.com - I have asked him not to claim this in future. ...There was a misunderstanding between Ryan and Flippa that we've sorting out.
His whole site is about misleading people into believing there is far more of an opportunity with site flipping than there really is.It was never Ryan's intention to mislead anyone with his statement.
Luke, you seem a nice guy, so it's sad to see you go down this route. Deep down you know that people like these make a living from exaggerating and you seem to now have no qualms about riding on that exaggeration to selling listings.
3six, I appreciate your concern. It's kind of like your parents warning you not to hang out with a certain kid in the playground!
It's true that we need to be careful who we jump into bed with, so to speak. It's been one of the reasons why we've been reluctant to start a Flippa affiliate program. Ryan creates good content and although his promotion methods may be over hyped for some, based on the content we've seen we're happy to recommend his services - just not exclusively!
Curiosity got the best of me so I signed up for eTycoon.net's free membership site and I reached out to Ryan to see what this guy was all about. I don't think his site over hypes at all. He actually does provide some really good content, tips, and strategies. And Ryan himself was a very straight up and honest guy. I was very impressed with him.
3Six - You obviously have some kind of weird hatred for site flipping and site flippers in general. I'm not sure what your gig is, but for a guy who supposedly hates the business so much, you spend a lot of time and negative energy criticizing people who are in the industry. I've read your posts over on the Flippa blog and I see some of your posts here. I think you have a lot of knowledge to share but instead of sharing that knowledge you spend a lot of time just knocking people down. I know the industry isn't perfect but no industry is. I'm sure whatever industry you're in has it's fair share of shady characters and hucksters. And I'm just curious...how is Ryan's site misleading people into believing there is "far more opportunity with site flipping than there really is?" Go to etycoon.net - which is Ryan's site - and tell me where the misleading is taking place. I have been through his entire site and it's very similar to Clinton's primary site - a site full of useful information on buying and selling websites.
At any rate, I thought I would add my two cents and defend Ryan as I think he was getting a bad wrap for nothing. I'm glad I took the time to check him out myself rather than go by what 3Six and others thought of him.
Travis
P.S. 3Six - maybe you were referring to the Cashtactics.net guy as over-hyping? If so, then disregard my comments about Ryan's site. If you were referring to Cashtactics, I agree the site is a little over the top.
Last edited by tvanslooten; February 18th, 2010 at 11:49 PM.
I'm not posting to defend 3Six, but you seem to jump to the defense of any internet marketer who is discussed in a negative light on this forum.
I'm also not going to speak for 3Six because I am sure he'll respond with his own comments, but the issues that I have with Ryan, this promotional video, and his website are:
1. He misrepresented his relationship with Flippa, when it is clear to anyone who visits Flippa that his claims are not true. That immediately set off my BS meter, and caused me to question anything else he says.
2. He spent a lot of time in the video reading off listings from Flippa and treating their claimed revenue and profit as gospel, without any mention of due diligence or the fact that many of the listings have false information, which would give someone who doesn't know any better the impression that there is easy money to be made online and is setting newbies up for failure.
3. The content on the site has a snake-oil salesman feel to it when I read it. Sorry, there's no other way that I can put it. Also, the fact that the site has a similar color scheme to Flippa, mentions Flippa, and has their logo right at the top of each page doesn't make me feel any better about his integrity. Why is he pushing this supposed relationship so hard, when from what I can tell, it consists of a guest blog post?
I think he is trying to sell a legitimate service and his marketing is not over the top in my opinion, but I think that if his methods were as successful as he would like everyone to believe, he would be implementing them himself instead of selling them to others to try. More power to him if he is able to sell his services and build up a group of satisfied customers, but until I am convinced otherwise, I am putting him in the same category as the guys on the late night infomercials telling everyone that they can buy real estate for $800 with the methods in their $500 manual.
Last edited by benitez17; February 19th, 2010 at 12:46 AM.
tvanslooten, I happily endorse Michelle, so that kind of blows your theory out of the water. If I find another SF who appears genuinely more interested in helping people teaching them SF rather than using BS to make a quick buck, I'll let you know. Be aware that I have a very, very sensitive BS detector.
I was referring to whom I was referring to, no confusion there. benitez is too kind in providing explanations. I can't be bothered justifying my earlier comments about this particular case.
To me anyone who exaggerates the potential to make money from sites, who hides facts like time cost to make the activity appear more profitable than it is, or even goes to great length - pages and pages of text or hours of video - to explain that there's money to be made in sites is demonstrating that there's more money in talking about it than doing it. He is trying too hard to create a market, to create demand in something where there are far more players than opportunities, a very small field that's already way passed saturated. That's why they talk about it more than they do it. These people are joined by folk from the marketplaces who happily collude because they're making money from it too. That entire activity has an inherent deception about it.
Thousands of people this year, most of the customers of these courses/ebooks, will end up spending money and finding that they make none ...and it's not for want of trying. That's what gets my goat.
Last edited by 3Six; February 19th, 2010 at 08:00 AM.
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