Do you make money on-line?

[Chabrenas]

I suspect that aleil4lom didn't literally mean rock stars, but your point is just as valid. In the Internet Marketing/Make Money Online scheme selling world I reckon Frank Kern is a good example. His image of being a surfer living in a simple apartment within walking distance of the beach is just another facet of his undoubted copywriting skills.

[crabfoot]

There are no "rockstar entrepreneurs"

That's not quite the truth, but such people are few and far between. Just a few examples off the top of my head -

Oliver Goehler did a demonstration (for charitable reasons) of how, in his early days, he made money on eBay by buying things cheaply and selling them for more in the same marketplace. His organisation is still a big thing on eBay. He's never going to be poor as long as eBay exists ...

Real rockstar entrepreneurs - Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman. Put their ChinniChap organisation together from nothing, wrote hit songs that made international stardom a reality for the acts they chose to promote those songs, and made sure that those acts actually got a nice piece of the action on the way there.

One that we'll just call musicians A and B. Musician A had been "through the mill" a bit, musician B was a complete novice who met musician A. They wrote good songs together, made hit records, and because A had learned the business, they didn't get ripped off in the process.

B got a fair share and made enough to never need to work again. They are still rich. B lives in a big house and stuffs white powder up his nose. A is more of a businessman and is still very active in the music biz. A is a genuine rockstar entrepreneur.

[Clinton]

Not entirely, although when I try to search ways to make money on-line I do get bombarded from groups promising the "Get rich quick" schemes

The internet is known to have one or two of those groups!

There probably are some gold nuggets in all that mountain of get rich quick material, but finding them ain't easy and the time spent hunting is better spent learning by doing. The sheer volume of MMO material online, most of it rehashed nonsense put together by charlatans, is a serious deterrent to people like me writing an ebook or two sharing what we know. My ebook titled "A Few Things I've Learned About Internet Businesses" wouldn't sell enough copies to pay for my next cup of coffee. The title would have to exaggerate what the book could do for you. There'd need to be JVs and a squeeze page and video testimonials and what not. I'd have to paint myself as the world's leading expert on making money online, take photographs of myself in flash cars (instead of the 15 year old Honda I drive), and ask my wife to take a photo of me with a local semi-clad model to "prove" that I've "made it" etc.

That's if I want to get enough sales to break even on the project.

To me all that fakery is demeaning, unedifying, inelegant and it smacks ever so slightly of desperation. Money ain't worth that much to me.

As typical with these MMO products, I'd have to rely on tweaking the quality of the sales copy to increase my earnings (and not the quality of the product itself). That's perfectly normal to 99.99% of people but to my mind there's something deeply depressing about that state of affairs and it's a sad reflection of how the wider world operates.