A newbie perspective

[rogsmith]

Right Clinton mentioned in a thread about perhaps a newbie could start a thread which could be used as perhaps a starting point for others that are new to this to use.Im not sure if this will be a good enough post to be considered that thread but here goes anyway,

Ok so for me this is completely new to be honest i stumbled across this site and at the time i didnt even realise anything like this was possible.So to be honest you could say its just like teaching a child to walk for me.I have asked some questions on here and already got some great replies.But perhaps if i say exactly where i am at im sure that will help others as it surely cant just be me in this position.
Im looking at the buying established websites,i understand now that there are plenty up for sale through lots of different avenues.After reading the latest thread on here i came across a site called flip filter which i have signed up to and looks interesting.But this has perhaps confused me even more for the time being.See i get the fact of buying already established websites and trying to improve them by (i dont know how yet) getting more traffic through.But looking on flip filter there are sites for sale for a buy now price of around $1500 which claim to have a monthly income of $950 so if thats the case why sell.
I realise i have a lot to learn (well everything) but am i missing something it seems a bit to good to be true.
Also this evening from the same thread i found flip filter they mentioned flipfinder which after having a look seems to be a course in how you do all this,im not sure how much it costs but i must admit i would be tempted as that would suit me rather than just finding bits and pieces of info,as a set programme which is in some sort of order would certainly be something i would be interested in.I have asked a question about flipfinder but it is a saturday night and it seems others arnt as sad as me and are out enjoying themselves.

So just to sum up exactly where im at with this, i understand the idea but literally thats it.How you go about buying a website,how you then go about improving it,how you direct traffic to it etc etc etc,i still dont really have a clue.

I think calling myself a newbie is probably doing nembies an injustice as most must know more than me but im willing and wanting to learn.

[Kay]

FlipFilter is a well-respected member on here. Good guy!

Again, I'm going to suggest that you do some more reading and ask specific questions rather than the newbie-style general questions that no one quite knows how to answer. You have to ask the right questions to get the answers you seek.

You need to do some research and, having done so, then ask more specific questions.

Wanna know about buying a site?
http://www.experienced-people.co.uk/...ing-a-website/

Improving a site?
http://www.experienced-people.co.uk/...a-business.htm

How to get traffic?
http://experienced-people.net/forums...etting-traffic
(Already mentioned to you before.)

What bits of that don't you understand? We're all willing to help, but you have to help yourself a bit too. C'mon, man, are you wanting us to spoon-feed you all the way or can you do something for yourself? Read about stuff, think about it, question it, then ask your questions. It's not helping you or anyone else to keep hiding behind the newbie label. Every member on here was a newbie at one time. You just have to have the mindset and the determination to move forward and learn stuff so you're not a newbie any more.

Don't stick this newbie label on yourself. Go and learn something and if you don't understand it, then ask questions about it. EP has some seriously big players around, make the most of it. You have a fantastic opportunity here with free access to an incredible amount of information. Don't sit on the doorstep of the library and cry because you don't know what shelf to look on.

(I'll probably get spanked tomorrow for saying that but it's OK, I'm used to it.)

[rogsmith]

Sorry Kay perhaps this thread got a bit mixed i was trying to start one after Clinton made a comment about newbies starting a thread.
Now if thats an invite to me to give you a spanking all i can say is now your talking.

[Kay]

I must clarify my position. When I refer to people spanking me, it's usually only the admins spanking me on the legs with a wet lettuce leaf. Nothing more. OK?

Yeah, I know what you mean about feeling like a newbie - we were all there once. You just have to do it, and if you get stuck then ask some questions. You're lucky to have EP. When I first started it took me about a week to figure out how I could draw vertical lines on my website (tables - yeah!). No one was helping me, but if you have the determination to do it, there's no one to stop you.

I think you have a great desire to do this but it's your lack of confidence that's holding you back. You are not a newbie, you're someone with great potential who is starting out on the path. If you ask, watch out you don't get killed in the rush of some great people who are willing to help you.

[rogsmith]

Blimey Kay am i that obvious you have me down to a tea already.Many thanks for your replies and as you say i am lucky to have this site.My main target now is to become an admin on this site,now wheres that lettuce.

[Kay]

You can't become an admin unless you pass certain psychological and physical tests. I failed. I'm too normal compared to the rest of them.

I know where THEY keep the lettuce but I'm chained up so I can't reach it.

Seriously, it's a great idea to start a thread to help newbies. Maybe give a little thought about how to structure it.

What are your aims? What are you trying to achieve? How do you want to go about doing it? That kind of stuff. Give your ideas for solutions in response to each question you ask. Make suggestions. Ask questions if you're missing a piece of the jigsaw.

Have a go.

[rogsmith]

So i have already found my first mistake.Thanks to Kays reply with the links on it.Clicked on the first one and its exactly what i need to be reading and exactly what i first found on this site before i found the forum.I have been trying to look and learn to much at once and not gone back to what i first started looking at.Thanks Kay i will be reading the excellent write ups on this site now before anything else.

[Clinton]

Hi rogsmith, good topic for discussion but my suggestion was about putting together some links to the threads newbies here found most useful. I don't have the right perspective and if I go choosing we may end up with the wrong kind of list.

See i get the fact of buying already established websites and trying to improve them by (i dont know how yet) getting more traffic through.But looking on flip filter there are sites for sale for a buy now price of around $1500 which claim to have a monthly income of $950 so if thats the case why sell.

If it sounds too good to be true then it's best avoided. Decent sites would command anywhere from 12x months' income to 24x or 36x or more. Of course, just the fact that the asking price is a certain multiple isn't sufficient. If you find a site you like you could start in thread in the due diligence section for others to spot where the flaws may be or you could hire someone to assist with DD. If you're looking to buy, it pays to spend some time early on reading up on DD checks and acquiring some DD skills yourself. The improving traffic and tweaking earnings etc., can be learned later ... and once you have a quality site in your possession.

My main target now is to become an admin on this site

Mods and admins on this site are there because they are committed to encouraging discussion on these boards, assisting newcomers find their way about these forums, posting regularly themselves and, last & least, implementing the forum rules. There is no test of DD skills, monetising techniques or CSS3. Anybody who has the time can volunteer to be a mod if they've built a posting history and the general membership demonstrates, via Thank Yous and Reputation points, that they like those posts.