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    Brand New!

    Dont know why but recently I have been looking up ways of making money using the internet.
    I realise that there is a LOT of stuff to learn and I just want to know where to get started really.
    First thing is first though, and that is staying legal. I dont want to end up in jail for doing something that I am unaware is illegal.

    So a friendly point in the right direction for a newbie would be nice!


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    It helps if you say where you are in the world.

    There are some opportunities that are only really useful to US residents, etc.

    Our members don't usually talk about doing illegal things - it should be obvious if anything illegal is being discussed that most people do not approve of it.
    Ways of "bending the rules" of some organisations that might be considered as slightly unethical get talked about (like buying links into sites) - no law against those things. Mind you, porn and gambling sites are legal, but we don't discuss them much. Actually, they are very competitive markets and tricky to monetize in any case - not a place for beginners to begin.

    Read this site - it takes days. If something doesn't make sense, read around the subject until it does make sense.
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    Welcome to Experienced-People There are quite the number of different ways to make money on the internet. Many ways to make money offline, such as selling your time for money or acting as a salesperson for others, directly translate to the internet. People online and offline use their skills to assist others, and sell products and services.

    Many people start on the net, and want to start sites based upon the publishing model, but there's a lot more ways to make money both locally and globally. What have you researched so far? Is there something that you find interesting and have more questions about?

    For staying legal on the internet, as long as you follow typical offline laws, you should be okay. If you steal someone's graphics or writing, there can be problems. If you assist others in doing things that are illegal, then you would probably end up with difficulties. You are correct that being unaware of what is illegal is still no defense when it comes to prosecution, but most people online don't violate laws.

    For first things first, that's usually learning how to build sites and use the internet. Where have your studies taken you so far? I cannot point you to information without knowing your experience and what you find to be of interest. The internet is a big place.

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    Read this site - it takes days. If something doesn't make sense, read around the subject until it does make sense.
    It took me months, but I may be a slow reader and have less time available than others I'm still finding threads with amazing information that is helping, but what happens is I find a thread with ideas that must be researched and fully explored, which takes time.

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    Crabfoot -

    Im in the UK at the moment.
    And I am worrying about the legal issues because my website will be about music!
    Thanks, I will have a good look through. Any articles//threads in particular you would recommend for a beginner ?

    Ken -

    i am interested in owning a website, and generating income that way. I dont really know of many other ways to make money online without a website.
    I am a complete beginner, having never owned or built a website before, I dont know where to start or anything.I have joined this website to enhance my knowledge of making money online, and through a website.

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    As crabfoot suggested, the best way forward is to read the posts on this forum. Then you can ask more specific questions. What do you need help with? Building a site in the first place, finding a niche, building traffic, or what? We can't begin to help you unless you do that bit of reading first and then come back with more specific questions of what you'd like to have help with.

    There are loads of great threads specific to newbies. Many of them are stickies on their relevant forums. You're here (welcome!) so dig in and enjoy it. But you have to do something for yourself. There's an amazing amount of information on here, surely you don't really want us to take your hand and lead you to the buffet and then tell you what to eat.

    So, you want to create a website about music. You want to stay legal. And you want to make money from having a website. It all sounds fine. It's a bit vague, though. Have you made any kind of plans about how you might achieve these objectives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by earner View Post
    And I am worrying about the legal issues because my website will be about music!.
    Is the site about music or supplying mp3's? if its about music you wont have any problems, apart from the normal publishing problems, like libel/defamation of character etc etc.

    if you are going to supply mp3's illegally expect at some stage the storm troopers will come barreling through the door, as long as you are up for that scenario then life should be sweet.
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    Cheers for the replies folks

    This is what I want to do:

    Create a website which promotes trance, progressive house type of music.
    I absolutely love this type of music, love looking for new songs and listening to them all day, so I would have plenty of drive and determination to do this.

    I often come across a lot of this type of music that nobody else has heard of, and I want to change that.
    Through the website I would also like to generate income through advertisements etc, and what ever other ways I can.
    I could possibly be an affiliate ? Have videos of the artists songs, and then direct them to the artists website (or place of purchase).

    I will have a look though and post back with more clear questions.
    But that is my basic idea.

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    As long as you don't host the videos/mp3's then nothing in your plan will cause any troubles legal wise. Unless I said before you say something like "Artist X writes music like a drunken monkey" its a defamatory statement that you can't prove.

    On the monetization side, there are numerous mp3 affil programs, from the large congolomerates down to individual bands/artists. It would be just a matter of searching out each one ahead of your posts.
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    Actually, hosting links to illegal content can get you in heaps o' trouble...this was a couple of years ago, the law enforcement rules have only gotten tougher. Why worry about having everything taken away? Make money legally and sleep fine at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earner View Post
    This is what I want to do:

    Create a website which promotes trance, progressive house type of music.
    I absolutely love this type of music, love looking for new songs and listening to them all day, so I would have plenty of drive and determination to do this.

    I often come across a lot of this type of music that nobody else has heard of, and I want to change that.
    As an independent artist promoter, you can make substantial profits with representation agreements and ownership (or even partial ownership) of mechanicals. If your contracts give you control over synchronization rights and you control payment of royalties to artists represented, by holding the rights to licensing, then you can pretty much write your own paychecks (as reward for successful promotion). Artists want to remain artists, and often loathe business-people (the younger inexperienced artists). This is opportunity for those who comprehend the madness (err, excuse me - genius) of creativity, and can relate to the artist's audience (on their preferred levels of consciousness) to get recognition for their clients.

    Mechanical rights allow control over publication, and receipt of royalties. For example, Michael Jackson bought the mechanicals to much of The Beatles portfolio, bidding on and buying ATV Music Publishing in 1985 (and making himself an enemy of Paul McCartney in the process). This meant that every time one of the 200 Beatles songs he bought was played on the radio, performance rights organisations (worldwide) such as ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, PRS (UK), PPL (UK) would owe Michael money.

    Administration of copyrights, and ownership of mechanicals, for bands you promote and represent is an interesting business. Just be certain your paperwork is in order, contracts are signed, and you have rights to every independent trance/house artist's songs you represent. I've seen people focus on a sub-genre, trip hop for example, become known for having the ears, and do quite well.

    If you need rights to publish or sell music in the US (if your bands wish to publish covers, for example), this is handled by The Harry Fox Agency in New York. There's a good primer on mechanicals at ArtistsHouseMusic.org and this explains performance rights and mechanical rights rather well.

    The entertainment business has a lot of money in it, but is an absolute minefield of misery for anyone not willing to follow the rules. If you're going to do this, cover your bases and do your research. Trying any of this without being completely legal, no matter where you live, would make for a rather difficult future. Managers and record companies are very protective of reputations, especially for new acts, so be careful. It is easier to only promote those with which you have a working relationship.

    Do it legal, promote through websites and YouTube, book venues, gather recognition by getting gigs for them, next thing you know they'll be playing in Michael Eavis' mud over in Glastonbury, and you'll have quite the reputation

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