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    Quote Originally Posted by tke71709 View Post
    You can believe anything that you want, but you have yet to provide any proof.
    These guys seem to agree with me. Just google "best domain extension for high google rankings"

    http://www.glenwoodfin.com/seo/is-co...ngine-ranking/

    What I will say, is, you ahrdly ever see a .biz a .info or a .us ranking in the search engines...AND...I think that ever person in this forum will back me up on the comment that "you hardly ever see a .biz a .info or a .us ranking in the SERPS"

    Why don't you show me a keyword where a .info a .biz or a .us is ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockP View Post
    What I will say, is, you ahrdly ever see a .biz a .info or a .us ranking in the search engines
    That might be due to the fact that there are far, far more sites on .coms, .orgs etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by JockP View Post
    Why don't you show me a keyword where a .info a .biz or a .us is ranking.
    If I can't find a top ranking .info/.biz/.us site, that in itself doesn't mean that those TLDs are treated differently. It just means that I'm not searching for stuff that has a top ranking .info/.biz/.us .

    TEST: Try and find an alsation wearing a woolly jumper. Just because you can't find one (bold assumption, I know), that doesn't mean that there are no alsations wearing woolly jumpers. It just means that in your limited experience there are no jumper wearing alsatians. I can assure you that there is at least one.

    But anyway, when I search for pagerank checker, I get a .info at #1. Should I generalise my limited experience to conclude that all .info's rank higher than other TLDs? No.

    Why don't you show us a .info/.biz/.us that should rank higher than a .com?

    EDIT: every time I link to a google search, the link gets messed up Am I doing something wrong?

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    The link's working fine for me hooperman

    The issue of .infos, .bizs etc being worth less has always confused me somewhat. Obviously, it is a fact that they sell for much less than .coms, but the main reason for that is the 'type in' factor- people are less likely to type in anything other than '.com' at the end of a domain.
    The key question is: Why should SEs treat the domain extension any differently? IMHO, they shouldn't, and don't. Google bases its searches on the relevance of the page to the user, with link popularity and keyword use playing a large part. What difference does the TLD make to the relevance of a page? Answer- none.
    Looking at it like that, the OP's .biz and .info domains should be worth a fair whack, but for whatever reason, the market doesn't value them as such. On the flip side, of course, anyone with a decent website idea could build a nice ranking page with one of these for a lower cost.

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    clearly the marlet see's no real value in gtld's other than .com's

    some evidence from dnjournal for this weeks sales

    It was a big week for Rosener who also teamed up with Andy Kelly at UpMarketURLs.com to broker the sale of #4 Italy.net at $52,000. That is the fifth largest non .com gTLD sale reported so far this year.

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    Yes, that's true.

    But- it doesn't mean that you can't rank with gTLDs.

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    I've heard that part of their struggle is getting other webmaster's to link to a .info or .biz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonL View Post
    I've heard that part of their struggle is getting other webmaster's to link to a .info or .biz.
    You may have a point there. Additionally, if there's a webmaster bias against .info and .biz, you'll find that fewer are bought in the first place. --> fewer in the SERPs.

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    In the context of this post (OP selling keyword domains), the extension is a huge part of the value. Dig through the recently sold domains at Sedo and it won't take long to see.

    Any domain with any extension can be marketed and rank with enough links, value add and following...but this kind of diminishes the value of selling any of the "other" domains, as any of the domains can rank with enough effort. Why would you pay a premium price for a .info when you can get a hyphenated .com or a different .info for reg fee?

    All of my experience has shown that with minimal effort (brand new, handful of links) the com gets a huge lift over the others for ranking its exact match search phrase. exampledomain.com will rank naturally higher and faster for the search "example domain". .net and .org also have this same effect, but not as strong. Having exampledomain.com with few links will not help you rank for "example" or "domain" or anything else but that exact match.

    It is like a running start, a bonus. Not a miracle cure. Try some 3 or 4 word queries in google and look around. I have seen a 1-page .com site rank #1 in a week with no links on some decent search terms. I can not say the same for an .info or .biz.

    Can you see the value in having a domain that can start bringing in traffic right away because of this bonus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dschall View Post
    All of my experience has shown that with minimal effort (brand new, handful of links) the com gets a huge lift over the others for ranking its exact match search phrase. exampledomain.com will rank naturally higher and faster for the search "example domain". .net and .org also have this same effect, but not as strong.
    Won't those exact matche phrases have differing levels of competition, i.e. you aren't comparing like with like.

    Quote Originally Posted by dschall View Post
    Can you see the value in having a domain that can start bringing in traffic right away because of this bonus?
    It's the presence of a TLD bonus that is being disputed though.

    Matt Cutts has said that there are no TLD bonuses, and I believe him. I don't know of a good reason for .info to be ranked lower than .com, all other things being equal. There have always been SEOs believing that there are TLD bonuses and others believing there aren't. It's an old discussion that never features any proof one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockP View Post
    Google "dating russian models"

    See the top site.

    It has no content on it.....it is a one page website.

    It ranks higher than the main site.

    a good domain, with the right extension matters a lot in rankings
    You've shown that Google favours exact match domains, that has nothing to do with the extension.

    I'm sure if the .net, .org, etc... extensions had sites on them they would rank quite well too.

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