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    FP - How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    Hi everyone,

    I learned a few things from my car flipping days that I feel relate to website flipping. Here they are in order of my experience...

    Don't get emotionally involved in an auction listing - This comes from my first car purchase when I was 16 years old. I actually really loved the idea of buying a car off of Ebay because I saw that they were being sold for what I thought were great deals. I had a job so I knew what my price range was, and I had a great idea for what kind of car I wanted.

    I found THE ONE. It was a running 1987 Honda CRX that was going for less than $500 with a little over a day left. I watched that listing like a hawk. I couldn't sleep that night because I was too busy imagining myself inside it and how I would feel like driving it. I was in LOVE.

    By the time the auction had 10 minutes left the car was going for just $600. Want to know what I ended up paying for it after I went into a bidding war? $1350. Had I stuck to a strategy and not let my emotions run the show, I could have won that bad boy for less than $700.

    Do your homework There was a fantastic public auto auction only a 15 minute drive from my house in Denver. I loved going there to test drive the cars, figuring out potential profit margins, and just hanging out. I'm like a cop in a donut factory being there.

    Anyway my first car flip purchase was a great looking wagon that had low miles, ran smooth and strong, was clean, and was a very good price. I confirmed it's KBB valuation and I bought it for $1200 on the spot knowing that I had at least $3500 in profit margin to play with. Or so I thought... It turns out that the car was made by that oh so unfortunate Korean manufacturer Daewoo. Let's just say the buyers market wasn't that hungry.

    Luckily I was able to still sell it less than a month later for a profit of $300.

    Learn as you go I decided that I would learn my lesson from that close call and play it safer but bigger my next go around. This time I found a 2000 Toyota Celica GT with 125k miles that was pretty beat up for $3000. I knew it needed some body work and a little engine work but that I could sell it for at least $5500 or more in good condition (similar cars were selling for more at the time on craigslist) I bought it on the spot knowing its potential.

    I ended up putting $1300 in repair work over the next month, got to drive around a fun little car, and sold it for $5600 cash for a profit of $1300.

    Later, I ended up buying another slightly more expensive car at the auction - a 6-speed 2004 Audi A4 - which I dreamed of having as a kid. My wife and I loved driving it for a year and we sold it for what we paid for it.

    The whole point is that while flipping cars and websites may seem tricky, it may seem risky, it may seem like hard work - it's all about going about it with the right mindset. It doesn't have to be any of those things.

    Being able to recognize a good deal when you see one, understanding the marketplace and the profit margin your working with, and learning from your experiences (meaning you actually have to take action) is the name of the game. Have fun and happy flipping!

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    I've learned from Tony Robbins that mindset is 80% of success. The remaining 20% is the mechanics of how to do it. If you have the right mindset you will succeed.
    My brother-in-law had a business selling cars on ebay. He would buy them at local auctions and then sell them on ebay. He never gets attached to any car, just the value of what he knew he knows it can sell for and what he needs to pay. He's a successful business man because he has the right mindset.

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    This is great piece of advice! I Also believe that one must also take action. Learn fro
    Experience as it is the only way to succeed. Dont walk away from it.

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    Ryan that is some really good advice. I think when we sell anything we develop and emotional attachment to it rather than just see it as a transaction. That is why the best sales people just see value in the product or service they are selling but ultimately they look for the best deal and don't worry about who buys their work or product. I was once told selling is giving some one the opportunity to buy ... In this case your cars or websites. Being hardnosed and business like is definitely the way to deal in anything and as soon as you start bidding wars as a buyer you lose that detachment and it becomes personal.

    I can see why buying can get personal but it just makes profiting all the harder. I have not flipped as many sites as I would have had I not felt they were worth more because of the hard work I put in to them. That's just plain dumb if I can turn a profit I should sell after all there is always another website and who knows the money I made from the previous sale could make the next web property even more profitable.

    I think you comparison with cars is very true although I am not sure I could part with a Ferrari at any price if I managed to get my sweaty little hands on one at the right price.

    My advice start making small deals maybe just a couple of hundred bucks here and there and build up don't try and hit the ball out of the park with your first site. It almost always never happens!

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    Quote Originally Posted by bluey4 View Post
    I am not sure I could part with a Ferrari at any price
    I mastered emotional detachment a long time ago and it serves me well. Everything I own is for sale, if the price is right.

    If you think about it for a minute, how many things do you own now that you were once excited about then, as soon as you acquired it, the excitement began to receed until it became just another "thing" you own. That's why people get into bidding wars on places like ebay and flippa, because they fall in love with something. As soon as they get it, the shine begins to fade.

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    Quote Originally Posted by springer98 View Post
    As soon as they get it, the shine begins to fade.
    Then its back on the auction block at a reduced price and he wonders why he can't make a profit like the guy who is teaching him how to make money at it. They he think this doesn't work and quits.
    The key is to not be emotional when buying but getting others to be emotional about your product when selling.

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Flips View Post
    The key is to not be emotional when buying but getting others to be emotional about your product when selling.
    Egg-Zachary! I could not have said it better myself.

    A little NLP, with some Cialdini/Halbert/et al. thrown in and you're off to the races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Sorensen View Post
    The whole point is that while flipping cars and websites may seem tricky, it may seem risky, it may seem like hard work - it's all about going about it with the right mindset. It doesn't have to be any of those things.

    Being able to recognize a good deal when you see one, understanding the marketplace and the profit margin your working with, and learning from your experiences (meaning you actually have to take action) is the name of the game. Have fun and happy flipping!
    Your post has great revelation to me and I really needed it at this very point in time. > tears of joy <

    Having a good strategy + correct mindset + emotional detachment = Desired Results

    Sometimes when I see a nice packaging (tangible & intangible products), I forgot about everything else and jumped in... and that has always landed me in very unfavorable conditions.

    I will put this lesson to good use. Thanks Ryan !



    Quote Originally Posted by springer98 View Post
    I mastered emotional detachment a long time ago and it serves me well. Everything I own is for sale, if the price is right
    Hey, this technique is definitely a black belt category… I tend to be very emotionally attached to things or people and because of that I can’t move forward in life. I must change that mindset now!

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Flips View Post
    The key is to not be emotional when buying but getting others to be emotional about your product when selling.
    You can take the path to be an excellent copywriter and please do give me a good discount when you make a name for yourself in the very near future…


    Mojo

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    This also reminds me of a show I would watch on TV called Storage Wars. Its about buying abandoned storage lockers and selling the contents of the locker for profit. The thing is you can only look in in the locker and can not move stuff around. Really you have no clue what could be in there. Most of the time it looked like they made pretty good for them selves.

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    Re: How Flipping Cars Relates to Flipping Websites

    True story.
    And maybe a motivational story.

    As some of you know... (or maybe just Thomas) My dad bought and sold cars in his younger years, took my mom on dates, bought the best electronics (paid $2400 for the first cell phone like 30 years ago), put himself through college, started a boat selling and service business, and now bought, owns, and operates a multi-million dollar marina for 6 seasons and counting now.

    See? Just start some where and build up and expand!

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